March 10, 2011

The Jackson Township Supervisors held their regular meeting at 8:00 a.m. at the Jackson Township Municipal Building. Members present were Supervisors Bruce Baker, John Wallet and Mark Westrick along with Secretary-Treasurer / Manager Dave Hirko and Solicitor Bill Barbin. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bruce Baker with the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.

Board Roll Call was taken with all three Supervisors present.

Public Comments Concerning Agenda Items:


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New Business:

Other New Business:

Public Comments:
Steve Yurasek
asked, did you get a map from the DEP and it shows they increased the barrier of what they’re gonna mine? It looks to me like they’re gonna mine the barrier that they left in between Nanty Glo and Brookdale. Solicitor Barbin replied, I seen the map. . one of my clients with an estate I represent got one of them. I think the Township’s land was all in the original permit area so they wouldn’t get notified but you can see the expansion. Yurasek said, I can bring mine out when we have the nightly meeting. . you all can look at it. I don’t know if you can copy something that big or not. It might be something work havin because once they start the mining, you might get some subsidence because you’re up in the upper seams and what not, Barbin asked, do we still have that information on the subsidence insurance? The State offers subsidence insurance. My understanding is it’s a dollar per thousand per year and if you’re in that area. . .Steve makes a good point. If you’re in that area where they’re moving to and you build a new home, you may want to purchase subsidence insurance for a couple of years until they go through and you see what happens. Yurasek said, like that house by 33 one time. . the house looked normal in the morning and by the time the 3 to 11 shift was over, the top of the porch was down by the ground. Supervisor Wallet said, so if we would have any coal or rights under the Township properties and they mine under it, that would be a good thing. Barbin said, just past Dick’s property is the block of coal we own. That property that was given to us by the guy with 100 acres that borders Nanty Glo. . .the coal went with that. Dick McDowell said, you might be talking about something different. . I got a letter in the mail about mining under my house. Barbin said, that’s Amfire. McDowell asked, that’s from Amfire? Is this something else? Barbin said, there is something else. . but all I’m saying in connection with that, as far as they’re going. . .the mining under your house. . .where they’re mining to. . they’re mining right up to the block of coal we own. If they’re successful in doing this. . .there were two blocks. . they were going east and north and if they successfully mine up the north part, they’ll be right up against the block of coal we own. Yurasek said, if they take your block of coal you can even make a few bucks. Barbin said, with underground mining, there’s no downside as far as I’m concerned. Yurasek added, that’s just money for the Township. Chairman Baker said, some others got letters besides you too. McDowell said, I think anybody in that area over there because it looked like it was coming from that mine this direction and it stopped. Baker said, when I talked to Al Gailey about that, there’s no way their mine goes that far. He’d be the one to ask. . he would know. Yurasek said, Al could see it on the map. He knows where the coal is and where it ain’t and it might go by his house too. . .it’s gonna come very close to that. McDowell said, now the coal that they had mined in there a long time ago. . that was mined before underneath there. It was very deep so it didn’t bother the surface very much. . . it didn’t even bother the well as much but most everybody now has city water in that area. We’re talkin about somethin down here in Nanty Glo. . I didn’t know that was involved also. Barbin said, on the map that Amfire sent, they’re not in Nanty Glo but they’re gettin close to Nanty Glo. . that’s what I meant. McDowell said, while we’re on the subject of that property you have down there, did you lease to any drillers? Barbin replied, no. McDowell asked, why not? Barbin said, because the market fell out. . .about the time we got all the rights straightened out with what we own. . there was a dispute with the mineral rights . . and about the time we got that dispute settled, the market fell out. Baker said, Ebensburg got a great deal but they never got paid on it. McDowell said, leasing . . .recently it’s come back again, not quite to where it was but there’s lucrative money to be made there. McDowell said, there was a company over by Indiana called Campbell Gas & Oil but they were sold out to a company in Texas. . .it was something like Penn National. They took over all of Campbell Gas & Oil and he’s the one that wanted the deeper lease and there’s a good many people leasing over there and most with the same company. Barbin said, they appear to lay out pretty good blocks before they commit to drilling. . .they want to have a fair number of acres under. . .because they’re drilling through . . .they put 3 to 5 million dollars in that first well. . .that proves that the gas is there and they’ve made all the surrounding properties more valuable so they want to have all the leases before they put that money in. McDowell said, on that 95 acres you have down there. . you could get a decent income from it now. Baker said, and we were looking at going with Nanty Glo to negotiate something too. McDowell said, Nanty Glo has a bunch of acreage there. . it’s all part of that same piece from the same guy. Baker said, hopefully we’ll get something good when the time comes. McDowell said, that company. . I think it’s Penn National came in and talked to you. . this is gas, but they’re interested in the coal again too. Barbin said, that’s the other side of that question you asked a while ago. . those people at the boney pile contacted us and said they would contact adjoining land owners and if there was some interest, they’d get back to us. McDowell said, when they were in there doing a reclaim on the boney pile, they uncovered an outcropping of the D seam which is a desirable coal seam and it lays in that area and there’s probably some of the property. . some of that ground that you have that’s hasn’t already been mined. . . now there was a strip job up on the hill there. . I guess it’s on the northwest side of Loraine Road. There was a strip job up in there. I don’t know what seam they were mining. You got coal and gas under that property that you may want to look at making a few bucks at.

Chairman Baker
announced, The Board of Supervisors next scheduled meeting will be held on Thursday, March 31, 2011 at 7:00 pm at the Jackson Township Municipal Building.

Motion Wallet, second Westrick to adjourn the meeting at 8:11 am. Vote-3 yes.

Respectfully submitted,
David M. Hirko, Secretary