May 8, 2006

The Jackson Township Supervisors held a special meeting at 8:00 a.m. at the Jackson Township Municipal Building. Members present were Supervisors Dave Bracken, Bruce Baker, Bob Stephens along with Secretary-Treasurer / Manager Dave Hirko and Solicitor Bill Barbin. The meeting was called to order by Dave Bracken, Chairman with the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.

Board Roll Call was taken with all three Supervisors present.

Public Comments Concerning Agenda Items:
Steve Yurasek
asked, what weight class is this roller for. Supervisor Baker answered, 6180 operating. Yurasek said, the State. . . . when they have a 10 ton class roller or an 8 ton class roller. . .thatís for different blacktops, different thicknesses and stuff like that. Baker said, actually all that stuffís gone Steve and now with these vibrating rollers. . . this is a double drum drive, double drum vibrating and the minimum we can get away with is 5000 operating. . . this is going to be 6180. Yurasek asked, will this allow us to blacktop ourselves? Baker answered, yes. . .the minimum we can go is 5000 on a double drum vibrator. Yurasek said, in other words, on down the road if we pick a spreader up, youíd be able to do this work yourself? Baker answered, thatís where weíre headed. We do have our own paver now. . .itís just so stinkin old that you canít do any leveling of the base coat. Yurasek said, Iím aware of that and Iím also aware that the old roller we had. . . .I had an old roller and I know all about that breaking down and one time I had to go to Cambria Tractor and rent one to finish the job. Baker said, and the little one that we had. . it ran away from us last year and lucky nobody was hurt. . .thereís no brakes and it canít be repaired. . . .but this will do our paving so itís big enough to do the paving for wearing courses and itís small enough that we can do shoulder work. Thatís what we were looking for. Chairman Bracken said, see. . on that Superpave Steve. ..we have to have a 92% compaction rate. Yurasek said, that form 4088 that PennDOT puts out. . .basically they tell you what size of equipment you got to have for everything. Baker said, the other concern we have is if all of our work becomes prevailing wage, then we got to do it ourselves. . . weíre losing too much money. Bracken said, weíll probably be back to that again. Will Michaels said, Iíd like to say something there on that. Did you ever think about going down to the Federal Surplus in Harrisburg to look at. . .letís say a paver? You know where itís at? Baker replied, yes. . we have the online site to it too. . .we can do it online. Most of the time if something comes through there thatís worth getting, itís gone before it ever gets there. Michaels said, Iíve been there a number of times and I couldnít find anything right there at the Commonwealth Garage and they had some pretty nice stuff sitting there. I was down there last week and there was some pretty nice stuff. . . . on the back lot there. . thatís where they have the surplus vehicles. Baker said, thereís a website that will show you everything on there too that weíre signed up on. . ..just like we were looking for a Atlee belt loader. . anything any good. . . when youíre buying it as is, used. We have two guys that email us back and forth with equipment we might be interested in. We looked all last year for a roller so finally this year we couldnít find anything that we felt was worth buying used. Michaels said, I know you have to watch those vibrators around pipes. Baker said, this oneís not big enough. . . when New Enterprise and Grannas come into town theyíll bust our water lines. . . we wonít let them vibrate some of these streets. . . and when they did 271 they broke all kinds of water lines. Michaels said, at the dump they had that one down at my place there and the vibration. . it impacts it.

New Business:
Stephens, second Baker to purchase WolfPac 6100 Roller from Cambria Equipment on the State "Piggyback Program" Contract for the purchase price of $29,687.00. Vote-3 yes.

Motion Baker, second Bracken to approve Resolution 08-06 to amend the Jackson Township Act 537 Plan concerning the construction of a public sewer line along Dishong Mountain Road. Vote-Baker & Bracken-yes, Stephens-no.

Other New Business:

Public Comments:
Clair Michaels
asked, what are they hauling in back there on top of Chickaree? Theyíre hauling from the east back in there. I noticed three trucks. Solicitor Barbin said, I watched the trucks turn and wondered the same thing. Theyíre supposed to becoming from the west. Michaels said, theyíre supposed to be hauling fly ash in there from the west. Barbin said, yes but thereís something else coming in there from the other direction. I saw one coming out of there. . .it was all trucks. . construction. Michaels said, there was three of them going in when we were going back. Barbin added, I didnít know if it was four or not. Michaels said, you can always tell when theyíre full. . .the canvas is to the back. Barbin said, I didnít notice that. Michaels said. . well I did. . .youíre driving and I wasnít. Supervisor Baker said, but all the crushed stone is D.O.T. approved. Barbin asked, so you think theyíre selling stone? Baker replied, I know theyíre selling stone. Michaels said, It was coming from the east going in. You see the canvasses of the trucks were covered and they come up over the hill and turned into it from the east. Every now and then I keep seeing them doing that. I donít go out that much but thatís about three or four different times Iíve seen them. Baker asked, it wasnít New Enterprise? Michaels replied, no. I didnít see New Enterprises name on it. Barbin said, no. . it had some blue color on it. . .I seen them pull out and I was wondering too. Chairman Bracken said, maybe find that out through the grapevine. Michaels said, I didnít see any names on them either. Barbin added, Iím sure the names on them somewhere. . the way they turned, I couldnít tell. They werenít garbage trucks.

Motion Baker, second Stephens to adjourn the meeting at 8:10 a.m. Vote-3 yes.

Respectfully submitted,
David M. Hirko, Secretary